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Old March 20th 05, 03:42 PM
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Can a video signal loss result from an ATI Radeon 9800 Pro AIW (128 MB)
getting too hot (overheating)? The system requires a hard reset since
the computer doesn't seem to respond (e.g., lock keys don't change light
status, no audio, etc.). It seems to happen when gaming like World of
Warcraft. Just wondering.

I doubt it is RAM because I have no problems when not gaming. I doubt it
is a CPU heat problem since I ran cpuburnk7 for over two hours nonstop
(up to 154 degrees(F) with 107 degrees(F)) motherboard temperatures).
The power supply should be OK: Antec Model SL400 (400 watts; 80mm and
92mm fans) power supply. You can see my primary computer (gaming box)
details at http://alpha.zimage.com/~ant/antfar...t/computers.txt ...

I even uninstalled and reinstalled ATI Catalyst drivers (v5.2 and v5.3).
Running 3D screen savers and ATITool for hours seem fine. Nothing odd in
Windows XP's event logs.

Thank you in advance.
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Old March 20th 05, 05:35 PM
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wrote:
Can a video signal loss result from an ATI Radeon 9800 Pro AIW (128 MB)
getting too hot (overheating)? The system requires a hard reset since
the computer doesn't seem to respond (e.g., lock keys don't change light
status, no audio, etc.). It seems to happen when gaming like World of
Warcraft. Just wondering.

I doubt it is RAM because I have no problems when not gaming. I doubt it
is a CPU heat problem since I ran cpuburnk7 for over two hours nonstop
(up to 154 degrees(F) with 107 degrees(F)) motherboard temperatures).
The power supply should be OK: Antec Model SL400 (400 watts; 80mm and
92mm fans) power supply. You can see my primary computer (gaming box)
details at
http://alpha.zimage.com/~ant/antfar...t/computers.txt ...

I even uninstalled and reinstalled ATI Catalyst drivers (v5.2 and v5.3).
Running 3D screen savers and ATITool for hours seem fine. Nothing odd in
Windows XP's event logs.

Thank you in advance.


What sort of power supply is in your computer? Particularly the amps on
each voltage rail. If you open up the case there should be a label on
the side of the power supply that says something like 3.3v 30A, 5v 28A,
12v 18A - this is important in helping find out whats going wrong.

If your case is one where its easy to take the cover off then you could
try running without the cover on to see if it crashes as without the
cover things run a bit cooler and this could maybe point towards it
being a heat problem.
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Old March 20th 05, 05:38 PM
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ofn01 wrote:
wrote:

Can a video signal loss result from an ATI Radeon 9800 Pro AIW (128
MB) getting too hot (overheating)? The system requires a hard reset
since the computer doesn't seem to respond (e.g., lock keys don't
change light
status, no audio, etc.). It seems to happen when gaming like World of
Warcraft. Just wondering.

I doubt it is RAM because I have no problems when not gaming. I doubt it
is a CPU heat problem since I ran cpuburnk7 for over two hours nonstop
(up to 154 degrees(F) with 107 degrees(F)) motherboard temperatures).
The power supply should be OK: Antec Model SL400 (400 watts; 80mm and
92mm fans) power supply. You can see my primary computer (gaming box)
details at
http://alpha.zimage.com/~ant/antfar...t/computers.txt ...
I even uninstalled and reinstalled ATI Catalyst drivers (v5.2 and v5.3).
Running 3D screen savers and ATITool for hours seem fine. Nothing odd in
Windows XP's event logs.

Thank you in advance.



What sort of power supply is in your computer? Particularly the amps on
each voltage rail. If you open up the case there should be a label on
the side of the power supply that says something like 3.3v 30A, 5v 28A,
12v 18A - this is important in helping find out whats going wrong.

If your case is one where its easy to take the cover off then you could
try running without the cover on to see if it crashes as without the
cover things run a bit cooler and this could maybe point towards it
being a heat problem.


Ah right - I see from this page what amps are on each rail - so should
be ok I think: (18A on the 12, 38 on the 5)
http://www.antec.com/specs/sl400_spe_EU.html

Also try turning off fastwrites and VPU Recover in the catalyst drivers
This page explains how to turn off fast writes and also do other checks.
http://www.squeakfix.co.uk/fixes/crash-1.htm
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Old March 20th 05, 06:30 PM
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ofn01 wrote:
wrote:
Can a video signal loss result from an ATI Radeon 9800 Pro AIW (128 MB)
getting too hot (overheating)? The system requires a hard reset since
the computer doesn't seem to respond (e.g., lock keys don't change light
status, no audio, etc.). It seems to happen when gaming like World of
Warcraft. Just wondering.

I doubt it is RAM because I have no problems when not gaming. I doubt it
is a CPU heat problem since I ran cpuburnk7 for over two hours nonstop
(up to 154 degrees(F) with 107 degrees(F)) motherboard temperatures).
The power supply should be OK: Antec Model SL400 (400 watts; 80mm and
92mm fans) power supply. You can see my primary computer (gaming box)
details at
http://alpha.zimage.com/~ant/antfar...t/computers.txt ...

I even uninstalled and reinstalled ATI Catalyst drivers (v5.2 and v5.3).
Running 3D screen savers and ATITool for hours seem fine. Nothing odd in
Windows XP's event logs.

Thank you in advance.


What sort of power supply is in your computer? Particularly the amps on
each voltage rail. If you open up the case there should be a label on
the side of the power supply that says something like 3.3v 30A, 5v 28A,
12v 18A - this is important in helping find out whats going wrong.


I already mentioned my power supply in my original post.
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Old March 20th 05, 06:33 PM
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Can a video signal loss result from an ATI Radeon 9800 Pro AIW (128
MB) getting too hot (overheating)? The system requires a hard reset
since the computer doesn't seem to respond (e.g., lock keys don't
change light
status, no audio, etc.). It seems to happen when gaming like World of
Warcraft. Just wondering.

I doubt it is RAM because I have no problems when not gaming. I doubt it
is a CPU heat problem since I ran cpuburnk7 for over two hours nonstop
(up to 154 degrees(F) with 107 degrees(F)) motherboard temperatures).
The power supply should be OK: Antec Model SL400 (400 watts; 80mm and
92mm fans) power supply. You can see my primary computer (gaming box)
details at http://alpha.zimage.com/~ant/antfar...t/computers.txt ...
I even uninstalled and reinstalled ATI Catalyst drivers (v5.2 and v5.3).
Running 3D screen savers and ATITool for hours seem fine. Nothing odd in
Windows XP's event logs.


What sort of power supply is in your computer? Particularly the amps on
each voltage rail. If you open up the case there should be a label on
the side of the power supply that says something like 3.3v 30A, 5v 28A,
12v 18A - this is important in helping find out whats going wrong.

If your case is one where its easy to take the cover off then you could
try running without the cover on to see if it crashes as without the
cover things run a bit cooler and this could maybe point towards it
being a heat problem.


Ah right - I see from this page what amps are on each rail - so should
be ok I think: (18A on the 12, 38 on the 5)
http://www.antec.com/specs/sl400_spe_EU.html


Also try turning off fastwrites and VPU Recover in the catalyst drivers
This page explains how to turn off fast writes and also do other checks.
http://www.squeakfix.co.uk/fixes/crash-1.htm


I already had Fast Write disabled, but not VPU Recover. I will try that.
I never saw VPU Recover say anything and let me send an error report.
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Old March 20th 05, 06:39 PM
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Can a video signal loss result from an ATI Radeon 9800 Pro AIW (128
MB) getting too hot (overheating)? The system requires a hard reset
since the computer doesn't seem to respond (e.g., lock keys don't
change light
status, no audio, etc.). It seems to happen when gaming like World of
Warcraft. Just wondering.

I doubt it is RAM because I have no problems when not gaming. I doubt it
is a CPU heat problem since I ran cpuburnk7 for over two hours nonstop
(up to 154 degrees(F) with 107 degrees(F)) motherboard temperatures).
The power supply should be OK: Antec Model SL400 (400 watts; 80mm and
92mm fans) power supply. You can see my primary computer (gaming box)
details at http://alpha.zimage.com/~ant/antfar...t/computers.txt ...
I even uninstalled and reinstalled ATI Catalyst drivers (v5.2 and v5.3).
Running 3D screen savers and ATITool for hours seem fine. Nothing odd in
Windows XP's event logs.

Thank you in advance.


Also try turning off fastwrites and VPU Recover in the catalyst drivers
This page explains how to turn off fast writes and also do other checks.
http://www.squeakfix.co.uk/fixes/crash-1.htm


Is this sharing/conflict a problem for my AIW card since your link
mentioned possible conflicts?

System Information report written at: 03/20/05 10:36:54
[Conflicts/Sharing]

Resource Device
I/O Port 0x00000000-0x00000CF7 PCI bus
I/O Port 0x00000000-0x00000CF7 Direct memory access controller

I/O Port 0x000003C0-0x000003DF VIA CPU to AGP2.0/AGP3.0 Controller
I/O Port 0x000003C0-0x000003DF ALL-IN-WONDER 9800 SERIES

IRQ 21 VIA Rev 5 or later USB Universal Host Controller
IRQ 21 VIA Rev 5 or later USB Universal Host Controller
IRQ 21 VIA Rev 5 or later USB Universal Host Controller
IRQ 21 VIA Rev 5 or later USB Universal Host Controller
IRQ 21 VIA USB Enhanced Host Controller

I/O Port 0x00009000-0x00009FFF VIA CPU to AGP2.0/AGP3.0 Controller
I/O Port 0x00009000-0x00009FFF ALL-IN-WONDER 9800 SERIES

IRQ 18 WinXP Promise SATA378 (tm) IDE Controller
IRQ 18 Creative SB Audigy 2 ZS (WDM)

Memory Address 0xA0000-0xBFFFF PCI bus
Memory Address 0xA0000-0xBFFFF VIA CPU to AGP2.0/AGP3.0 Controller
Memory Address 0xA0000-0xBFFFF ALL-IN-WONDER 9800 SERIES

I/O Port 0x000003B0-0x000003BB VIA CPU to AGP2.0/AGP3.0 Controller
I/O Port 0x000003B0-0x000003BB ALL-IN-WONDER 9800 SERIES


I don't know computer hardwares very well.
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