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Old January 14th 18, 03:12 AM posted to alt.computer,alt.computer.workshop,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
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Default Are there any PC monitor goggles or glasses?

It seems that it would sometimes be convenient if there are some type of goggles
we could hook up to a computer to do some quick tasks without having to have a
monitor, especially if we have more than one computer and are just using one of
them to back things up, or any similar situations. So far all I've been able to
find are some expensive types for gaming, and some that look like they only work
with a cell phone. Does what I'm looking for not exist?
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Old January 14th 18, 03:59 AM posted to alt.computer,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
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[email protected] wrote:
It seems that it would sometimes be convenient if there are some type of goggles
we could hook up to a computer to do some quick tasks without having to have a
monitor, especially if we have more than one computer and are just using one of
them to back things up, or any similar situations. So far all I've been able to
find are some expensive types for gaming, and some that look like they only work
with a cell phone. Does what I'm looking for not exist?


This gadget uses USB for power and HDMI for data.
If the HDMI has a +5V pin on it, I don't know if
there is enough power there to run a display.

https://www.adafruit.com/product/1928

And there are display technologies with much higher
resolutions. Some of the SmartPhones have higher than HD
and are about the same size.

The goggle idea gets you a little too close to the
action, and maybe a stereoscopic display makes more
sense. And conventional computers might not be ready
to drive such a thing. The current stand-alone VR goggles
are a little too expensive, maybe because they have too
much gadgetry for simple viewing applications.

Adafruit apparently made a couple other sizes. Prices and
availability of these things is all over the place.
Companies making small quantities of "unique" product,
stand to lose their shirts when sales aren't brisk enough.
So it's a very risky business to be in (imagine having a
pile of 5" displays piled up that nobody is buying). The
big companies are smart enough to stay away from such things.
Once "everyone agrees" an idea is good, the small companies
are kicked to the curb by declining prices. And the
big company grabs it all.

Paul
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Old January 14th 18, 03:20 PM posted to alt.computer,alt.computer.workshop,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
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Default Are there any PC monitor goggles or glasses?

On Sat, 13 Jan 2018 22:12:26 -0500, [email protected] wrote:

It seems that it would sometimes be convenient if there are some type of goggles
we could hook up to a computer to do some quick tasks without having to have a
monitor, especially if we have more than one computer and are just using one of
them to back things up, or any similar situations. So far all I've been able to
find are some expensive types for gaming, and some that look like they only work
with a cell phone. Does what I'm looking for not exist?


I looked around, but most of them are "smart" glasses made for
"dumb" people that don't see the downside of getting everything they
look and say at being transmitted to and stored by some third party
database for later "sharing with it's partners".

I'm sure cheap "monitor" glasses exist, but Glugle is
excluding them from my search results.

Meanwhile, I suggest a portable 7" LED monitor. About 60
dollars. Cheaper than glasses.

PS Don't expect any feedback from our moderator. He never
helps anyone unless he gets a cut, or he can use his reply as an
excuse for STALKING. Notice I didn't name or suggest any brand.
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Old January 15th 18, 03:16 AM posted to alt.computer,alt.computer.workshop,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
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On Sun, 14 Jan 2018 13:20:48 -0200, Shadow wrote:

On Sat, 13 Jan 2018 22:12:26 -0500, [email protected] wrote:

It seems that it would sometimes be convenient if there are some type of goggles
we could hook up to a computer to do some quick tasks without having to have a
monitor, especially if we have more than one computer and are just using one of
them to back things up, or any similar situations. So far all I've been able to
find are some expensive types for gaming, and some that look like they only work
with a cell phone. Does what I'm looking for not exist?


I looked around, but most of them are "smart" glasses made for
"dumb" people that don't see the downside of getting everything they
look and say at being transmitted to and stored by some third party
database for later "sharing with it's partners".


I'm sure cheap "monitor" glasses exist,


There are lots of them that are just regular glasses for looking at a
monitor with.

but Glugle is excluding them from my search results.


There are these:

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/nvidia-...CABEgJUuvD_BwE

but don't know if they'd work for what I want. They say they're wireless, but
what transmits the signal?

Meanwhile, I suggest a portable 7" LED monitor. About 60
dollars. Cheaper than glasses.


So far the best option I'm afraid.

PS Don't expect any feedback from our moderator.


From my pov it's shameful that there are moderated groups at all. It's a
direct insult to the idea of freedom of speach, and ends up being nothing better
than a playground for the dictator/"moderator" in ever single example I've ever
seen.

He never
helps anyone unless he gets a cut, or he can use his reply as an
excuse for STALKING. Notice I didn't name or suggest any brand.
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Old January 15th 18, 03:18 AM posted to alt.computer,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
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On Sat, 13 Jan 2018 22:59:23 -0500, Paul wrote:

[email protected] wrote:
It seems that it would sometimes be convenient if there are some type of goggles
we could hook up to a computer to do some quick tasks without having to have a
monitor, especially if we have more than one computer and are just using one of
them to back things up, or any similar situations. So far all I've been able to
find are some expensive types for gaming, and some that look like they only work
with a cell phone. Does what I'm looking for not exist?


This gadget uses USB for power and HDMI for data.
If the HDMI has a +5V pin on it, I don't know if
there is enough power there to run a display.

https://www.adafruit.com/product/1928


Thank you for that! But by the time you hooked all that up it wouldn't be
any easier than a regular monitor. There must be some advantage I guess, but not
in my situation afaik.

And there are display technologies with much higher
resolutions. Some of the SmartPhones have higher than HD
and are about the same size.

The goggle idea gets you a little too close to the
action, and maybe a stereoscopic display makes more
sense. And conventional computers might not be ready
to drive such a thing. The current stand-alone VR goggles
are a little too expensive, maybe because they have too
much gadgetry for simple viewing applications.

Adafruit apparently made a couple other sizes. Prices and
availability of these things is all over the place.
Companies making small quantities of "unique" product,
stand to lose their shirts when sales aren't brisk enough.
So it's a very risky business to be in (imagine having a
pile of 5" displays piled up that nobody is buying). The
big companies are smart enough to stay away from such things.
Once "everyone agrees" an idea is good, the small companies
are kicked to the curb by declining prices. And the
big company grabs it all.

Paul

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Old January 15th 18, 04:04 AM posted to alt.computer,alt.computer.workshop,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
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Shadow wrote:

PS Don't expect any feedback from our moderator. He never
helps anyone unless he gets a cut, or he can use his reply
as an excuse for STALKING. Notice I didn't name or suggest
any brand.


Who is our moderator?
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Old January 15th 18, 04:20 AM posted to alt.computer,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
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[email protected] wrote:


There are these:

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/nvidia-...CABEgJUuvD_BwE

but don't know if they'd work for what I want. They say they're wireless, but
what transmits the signal?


Those are similar to these. This is not what the glasses
do, but the concept in this article shows how you can
do stereoscopic projection. The Nvidia glasses are
a variation on the "View Master" concept of glasses.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anaglyph_3D

The NVidia glasses are some sort of liquid crystal shutter.
One eye is blacked out, during one frame of the LCD screen.
Then, the glasses switch and the other eye is blacked out,
and a second frame presented on the LCD screen. The
presentation of the two different images, one for each
eye, and the persistence of vision, gives "fake 3D".
The objects in each image have to be shifted slight
to give "depth" in the human brain.

It requires a display with a 2X refresh rate.

At one time, there was a connector on the video
card faceplate, with a logic signal to switch the
glasses back and forth. This synchronizes what the glasses
are doing, with the screen updates.

It requires that the correct NVidia driver is loaded,
plus a means is needed of wiring up the glasses.

Because LCD screens have "latency" from connector to
screen, some adjustment may be needed, to temporally center
the presented images, with the blanking of one eye on
the glasses. Some LCD monitors have a thru-delay of
four frames (a *long* delay). CRTs don't have a delay
for processing, from VGA connector to the screen. CRTs
only go that fast, if you drop the resolution setting.

So those glasses don't present a display, they just modulate
the light so that each eye sees a slightly different image,
and it allows 3D presentation as a result. It's similar
to red/green glasses, only without using gel filters.
And requires L-R-L-R sequence of LCD monitor images
by the video card. The NVidia driver knows how to do
that. The application also has to know you want that,
to feed the correct data to NVidia.

The glasses can be used for Mechanical CAD, to review OpenGL
3D images of solid objects, in eye-popping projection. You
can view a rotating tea pot, and the "spout" pokes out
of the screen at you.

If the glasses had a battery in the frame of the glasses,
and the glasses used Wifi for the sync signal, this would
make the glasses wireless. This allows more freedom when
sitting at your desk.

*******

http://www.nvidia.co.uk/object/3d-vi...nology-uk.html

Requirements include: 120Hz monitor.

The majority of consumer monitors are nominal 60Hz type
and unsuited to this. Dropping the effect to 30Hz is a bit
disturbing (first person shooter latency, reduced game framerate).

http://www.nvidia.co.uk/object/3d-vi...ements-uk.html

There is at least one gamer monitor rated for 144Hz refresh,
so it would be fast enough. The 144Hz monitor uses a TN panel
as far as I know. Such a monitor only has correct colors,
if you sit centered in front of the screen.

This idea has always been a "fringe" thing, for people with
money to waste :-) I don't know if there is nausea or not.
You'd need to find a review on the web, to learn more.

I don't even know a good technical term for these. They're
not really Anaglyphic, and they should not screw up the
color. But the idea is the same, to fool the human brain,
with two different visual fields intended for stereoscopy.

Paul
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Old January 15th 18, 02:41 PM posted to alt.computer,alt.computer.workshop,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
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On Mon, 15 Jan 2018 04:04:43 -0000 (UTC), John Doe
wrote:

Shadow wrote:

PS Don't expect any feedback from our moderator. He never
helps anyone unless he gets a cut, or he can use his reply
as an excuse for STALKING. Notice I didn't name or suggest
any brand.


Who is our moderator?


In alt.computer.workshop, this one claims to be:

https://tekrider.net/pages/david-brooks-stalker.php

But it's probably just another drunken confabulation.
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Old January 16th 18, 02:14 PM posted to alt.computer,alt.computer.workshop,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
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[email protected] wrote:

It seems that it would sometimes be convenient if there are
some type of goggles we could hook up to a computer to do
some quick tasks without having to have a monitor,
especially if we have more than one computer and are just
using one of them to back things up, or any similar
situations. So far all I've been able to find are some
expensive types for gaming, and some that look like they
only work with a cell phone. Does what I'm looking for not
exist?


Interesting idea. Not for general PC use here, since I
definitely need to see things going on in peripheral vision
around me. Gaming might be an exception.
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Old April 8th 18, 07:44 PM posted to alt.computer,alt.computer.workshop,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
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It seems that it would sometimes be convenient if there are some
type of goggles we could hook up to a computer to do some quick
tasks without having to have a monitor, especially if we have more
than one computer and are just using one of them to back things up,
or any similar situations. So far all I've been able to find are
some expensive types for gaming, and some that look like they only
work with a cell phone. Does what I'm looking for not exist?


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