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Got it working! First post from inside Damn Small Linux! Needmore help pls



 
 
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  #11  
Old June 10th 10, 10:30 PM posted to comp.os.linux.setup,alt.comp.linux,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
ray
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On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:51:45 -0700, RayLopez99 wrote:

On Jun 10, 11:34*pm, Alister Ware wrote:

DSL uses its own form of package management & J G Miller has already
given you a link to its documentation page
http://www.damnsmalllinux.ORG/
wiki/index.php/Installing_MyDSL_Extensions


I looked at this link and could not find anything. Can you please tell
me where info on how to install is for DSL? Is it here? Which command
he http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/packages.html

Where do you put the binary executables (assuming I download something
already compiled)?


I don't understand why you insist on making things more complicated than
they are.

First choice - your package manager for whatever distro you run - it will
fully install your choices.

If you 'need' something not in the repository, you have several choices.
Generally, you do not download a precompiled executable - but if you do,
you can put it anywhere you like. In order to not have to specify it's
location, put it somewhere in your PATH. Good places would be: /bin, /usr/
bin or /yourhome/bin. If you download the source, there will be
instructions: often you do ./configure followed by make and finally 'make
install' - which completes the install and puts the executable where you
can use it.



I would suggest that before trying to create an extreme installation (
& squeezing an os into limited hardware is extreme) you might find it
beneficial to learn on a more mainstream distro with more up-to date
hardware first
--


No, please help me with what I have. The pot of gold is always on the
other side of the rainbow, I know. Windows is the same way (each new
release is progressively better); but the sign of a good OS is if it
works now, with what I got.


OK, so read the DSL documentation.



Please help.

RL


  #12  
Old June 10th 10, 11:10 PM posted to comp.os.linux.setup,alt.comp.linux,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Baho Utot[_2_]
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RayLopez99 wrote:

On Jun 9, 5:39*pm, ray wrote:

Hey NoBalls - there is a reason that Linux distributions have
'repositories' and 'package managers'. This ain't MS - it's easy.


well if it's so fucing easy why don't you tell me (not details but big
picture) how to do it?


www.google.com/linux is your friend


"thanks in advance" (I know I won't be hearing from you again, because
it's sooo easy, right?)

RL


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Old June 10th 10, 11:17 PM posted to comp.os.linux.setup,alt.comp.linux,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Baho Utot[_2_]
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ray wrote:

[putolin]


If you 'need' something not in the repository, you have several choices.
Generally, you do not download a precompiled executable - but if you do,
you can put it anywhere you like. In order to not have to specify it's
location, put it somewhere in your PATH. Good places would be: /bin, /usr/
bin


Yes that would be a great place for a precompiled trojan.

  #14  
Old June 11th 10, 03:40 AM posted to comp.os.linux.setup,alt.comp.linux,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
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On Jun 11, 12:30*am, J G Miller wrote:


And does not the attentive reader find it "odd" that RayLopez99
did not respond to my posting, but only now complains that he cannot
find the details on the provided link which tells him exactly what
he needs to do to install the software when somebody else points
out that his plea for help has already been answered in another posting?


Shutup. This is the fabled "Linux community"? A bunch of whiners,
not winners.

The confusion was because of YOUR truncated link. The correct link
is: http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/wiki/i...DSL_Extensions

Please make a note of it.

And thanks for your meager help. I'll find something else to ask
about later, assuming, as is always likely with hobbyware, I cannot
figure out how to install something. Already I'm unclear about what a
'repository' of installations is, but I surmise it must be recommended
software that fits with the D.S.L. system requirements or some such.
Proving that you cannot, like in Windows, install any third-party
software in your Linux system. It has to be from an "approved" list.
But I'll cross that bridge when I complain about it.

RL
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Old June 11th 10, 03:43 AM posted to comp.os.linux.setup,alt.comp.linux,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
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On Jun 11, 12:30*am, ray wrote:
I don't understand why you insist on making things more complicated than
they are.

First choice - your package manager for whatever distro you run - it will
fully install your choices.


OK, got that. Saw the link--I was on the wrong link (wrong page)
before.



If you 'need' something not in the repository, you have several choices.


Aha! This is confusing. I'm not logged in yet, but it would help if
you could please explain what it means "not in the repository". Is
there a recommended list of programs "in the repository" that you
should first check out before installing some third party software in
Damn Small Linux? I have no problems with that, BTW. It limits your
choices but it also is safer since you know the "repository" programs
will work with your distro.

RL
  #16  
Old June 11th 10, 04:18 AM posted to comp.os.linux.setup,alt.comp.linux,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
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On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 19:43:19 -0700, RayLopez99 wrote:

On Jun 11, 12:30*am, ray wrote:
I don't understand why you insist on making things more complicated
than they are.

First choice - your package manager for whatever distro you run - it
will fully install your choices.


OK, got that. Saw the link--I was on the wrong link (wrong page)
before.



If you 'need' something not in the repository, you have several
choices.


Aha! This is confusing. I'm not logged in yet, but it would help if
you could please explain what it means "not in the repository". Is
there a recommended list of programs "in the repository" that you should
first check out before installing some third party software in Damn
Small Linux? I have no problems with that, BTW. It limits your choices
but it also is safer since you know the "repository" programs will work
with your distro.

RL


The repository is simply the collection of all programs you can install
directly from your package manager. If it's not in the repository (I'm
not familiar with DSL - but with Debian you can add additional
repositories) then the package manager does not know about it. There may
or may not be a way to use the package manager to install a package you
download that is not in the repositories - Debian can do that - again,
I'm not familiar with DSL - but I believe it is (or was) Debian based -
so it should. The Debian package manager also has a facility to search
for a particular application in the repositories - search by name; search
by description and name; several other more obscure searches as well.

This really isn't rocket science. Start up your package manager and work
with it.
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Old June 11th 10, 09:10 AM posted to comp.os.linux.setup,alt.comp.linux,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
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On Jun 10, 11:18 pm, ray wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 19:43:19 -0700, RayLopez99 wrote:
On Jun 11, 12:30 am, ray wrote:
I don't understand why you insist on making things more complicated
than they are.


First choice - your package manager for whatever distro you run - it
will fully install your choices.


OK, got that. Saw the link--I was on the wrong link (wrong page)
before.


If you 'need' something not in the repository, you have several
choices.


Aha! This is confusing. I'm not logged in yet, but it would help if
you could please explain what it means "not in the repository". Is
there a recommended list of programs "in the repository" that you should
first check out before installing some third party software in Damn
Small Linux? I have no problems with that, BTW. It limits your choices
but it also is safer since you know the "repository" programs will work
with your distro.


RL


The repository is simply the collection of all programs you can install
directly from your package manager. If it's not in the repository (I'm
not familiar with DSL - but with Debian you can add additional
repositories) then the package manager does not know about it. There may
or may not be a way to use the package manager to install a package you
download that is not in the repositories - Debian can do that - again,
I'm not familiar with DSL - but I believe it is (or was) Debian based -
so it should. The Debian package manager also has a facility to search
for a particular application in the repositories - search by name; search
by description and name; several other more obscure searches as well.

This really isn't rocket science. Start up your package manager and work
with it.



OK thanks for that information. I was able to find the D.S.L
repository, and it did have a bunch of programs "waiting to be
installed" so that makes sense.

BTW if you know how to make your left mouse button your right (D.S.L.
somehow switched them on me--it's hard now to remember your right
mouse button is really your left) pls let me know.

RL
  #18  
Old June 11th 10, 01:35 PM posted to comp.os.linux.setup,alt.comp.linux,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
jellybean stonerfish
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On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 19:40:19 -0700, RayLopez99 wrote:



And thanks for your meager help. I'll find something else to ask about
later, assuming, as is always likely with hobbyware, I cannot figure out
how to install something. Already I'm unclear about what a 'repository'
of installations is, but I surmise it must be recommended software that
fits with the D.S.L. system requirements or some such. Proving that you
cannot, like in Windows, install any third-party software in your Linux
system. It has to be from an "approved" list. But I'll cross that
bridge when I complain about it.

RL


You can install whatever you like. If you want to install a
package that was compiled by your distro, us your distro's
version from your distro's package manager. If you want to
install a different version, or something that isn't in your
distro's repository, then you need to get the package from
someplace else. Perhaps you would get it from the author of the
software. For example; http://www.gimp.org/downloads for gimp,
http://www.xaraxtreme.org/download.html for xaralx, or
http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/ for the flash plugin. Some
authors do not distribute compiled versions of their software.
In these cases you get the source code and compile it, following
it's instructions.

You can even execute (make run, not make dead) some of your windows
programs on your dsl system, with the 'wine' package.


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Old June 11th 10, 10:03 PM posted to comp.os.linux.setup,alt.comp.linux,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
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On Jun 11, 3:35*pm, jellybean stonerfish
wrote:
You can even execute (make run, not make dead) some of your windows
programs on your dsl system, with the 'wine' package. *


Uh, Jellyfish thanks for the tips, but do you realize I'm running
D.S.L. on a Pentium I with very little RAM? Doubt I can use "wine" for
emulation of any sort.

RL

  #20  
Old June 11th 10, 11:09 PM posted to comp.os.linux.setup,alt.comp.linux,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
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On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 14:08:52 -0700, RayLopez99 wrote:

Can't stand it when Linux is shown to be second rate, can you
(im)Poster?


So why are you installing what you consider to be a second rate system?
 




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